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Danbury race arena?


I grew up with this place and worked on cars that ran there from the time I figured out how to skip school. On the day when they tore it down and built a mall a part of me died. Is any one up for making this historic north east short track?
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Ok, I never heard of it, and im not sure.

Think you could post pics of the place or a website
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1981 Danbury Fair Racearena You Tube Video

1981 Danbury Fair Racearena Video #2

LaSheef's.com Danbury Photos

http://www.lasheefs.com/Pages/DanburyBW/DanBW1.html

I have a lot more like this.

P.S. I'm 57 years old. I grew up with this track and got into racing because of it. I also grew up with the Lajoies.

The track it self was unique. 1/3 mile. Maybe 5 degrees banking. About 32 feet wide. 300 feet down the straight. Just as fast on the outside as it was on the inside.

If you've ever seen the movie Arther, the race track scene was filmed at the race arena. High point cars had to start in the rear and that made for some intense racing. I tried to invert the line up with N2k3 but that didn't work out to well.

After seeing the beautiful job done on Riverside, a place were I raced, I KNOW the race arena is possible.






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LaSheef's.com - More Danbury Fair Photos




I was 23 years old when I helped the late Jake Valoux put together the 99 that Bob Riley drove in 1978.

#42 Carmine Benincaso

The 42 of my late uncle Carmine and a picture of our 99 that I sold to him. My cousin still runs these cars at those antique race car shows.






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Excellent reference materials, SNYRA. Thanks for posting them. I am originally from New England, but regretfully never made it down to Danbury Racearena. I always read the results and pics from it every week in Val Laseur's (sp?) now defunct New England Speedway Scene. It looked like it was a first class facility with an excellent show.

Over the years I have been collecting reference pictures of the track in hopes of someday recreating it for NR2003. So, while I'm making no promises of making the track anytime soon, it has always been on my To-Do list. emoticon






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JR, I see Don Lajoie almost every day. ANYTHING you might need is available. A lot of these guys have past away and I'd really like to see this done before the last one is gone. I can easily get Jerry Nadeau and Randy Lajoie to test drive and myself and a few others. I did make a crap version of the track for NR2. But I just can't get it anywhere near right with sand box.
I'd like to do it in memory of Uncle Jake and Uncle Carmine.
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SNYRA, do you have any aerial shorts of the track? Or any overhead of it so I can better see the shape of it?

Or, is there an existing track made for NR2003 that would best match it's shape? There are a number of good 1/3 mi. ovals for NR2003 that might be pretty similar. Oxford Plains, Beech Ridge, Catamount, Waterford, White Mt., perhaps?
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Danbury Aerial Photo #1

Danbury Aerial Photo #2

Danbury Aerial Photo #3

But a really good one is here:
Danbury Aerial Photo from Catamount Site


The inner track is a 5th mile that was used for midgets up until the early 60s.

The closet track shape-wise from Pappy is Hickory. That's what I started with when I made it for N2. The problem is that Danbury was about as flat as a cylinder head and Hickory isn't. I had to flatten it and lower the banks to 5 degrees.

Another track that I downloaded, Coranado, would also be very close shape-wise. You'd have to move the pit entrance and exit, flatten it and a bunch of other infield and grandstand changes. I've been looking at that one very closely and I've been playing with the groove.

At Danbury the top was just as fast as the bottom and 2-wide was the rule. Every now and then they'd run 3 wide and if it was our car I just held my breath!






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That overhead from Bill Ladabouche's Catamount site is excellent. It shows the track to be pretty symmetrical. The straights are parallel and identical in length and the corners are identically rounded. Hickory is more of a "D" shaped oval with the backstretch kind of rounded. So I don't think that would be a good choice to base the track off of.

I think your choice of Coronado being very similar in shape is just about right on:

CORONADO:
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Caanan is another one that might make a very good base for Danbury Fair Racearena:

CAANAN:
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Coronado would require lowering the banking in the corners. Both would of course need the proper objects and detailing that would make it look like Danbury Fair.

Also, I believe that Danbury had the pits over behind turns 3 and 4, so the turn 1-2-backstretch pits in Coronado would have to be moved over to turns 3-4 on Coronado.

Caanan already has the pits over in turns 3-4, so that would save some editing work. Not to mention that Caanan is pretty flat like Danbury. Creating a 2nd groove with added grip for 2-groove racing is pretty easy to accomplish.

So SYNRA, the question is, do you know your way around Sandbox? If not, it sure sounds like you might be very capable of learning based on your N2/N3 track editing experience. emoticon





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I've just done a few hours of testing at Catamount. Other than the banking and where the pits are and making it a night track it's perfect. The pit entry was almost at the end of the back stretch at Danbury. There was also an access road that we used to bring the haulers in that ran parallel with the back stretch. The entry back onto the track was just past the exit of turn 4. Watch the vid that I posted. It's even narrated by Paul Baker the track announcer for 30 years. The first time I watched it it sent chills and brought back a flood of memories. I was waiting for him to say "Good evening ladies and gentle. On behalf of the southern New York racing association, this is Paul Baker bidding you welcome to the Danbury Fair Race arena. The east's most beautiful racing plant." All right, enough nostalgia. Are you up for this? If you'll walk me through some of this stuff I'm more than happy to do it. Right now I need a simple to use pack/unpack utility.
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